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5 years 9 months ago #100 by Rosiefec
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Hello, I'd like to do sublimation in my business, I have a heat press and I want to buy a good printer. What is the best equipment (best print quality and time) to make sublimation, is Ricoh?

Thank you for your help and all advice is much appreciated! :)

Rosiefec

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5 years 9 months ago #112 by subprinting
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Hi Rosiefec

I have heard mixed reports about the ricoh, I don't think you can go past an epson.


head over to the tshirt forums dye sub section they have a few ricoh thread
www.t-shirtforums.com/dye-sublimation/


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Brad
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3 years 11 months ago #9178 by neweraprinting
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Epson 1430 best printer

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3 years 10 months ago #9889 by Justin86
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Rosiefec wrote: Hello, I'd like to do sublimation in my business, I have a heat press and I want to buy a good printer. What is the best equipment (best print quality and time) to make sublimation, is Ricoh?

Thank you for your help and all advice is much appreciated! :)

Rosiefec


I recently brought a Ricoh 7100 so far it has been incredible! Im running Sawgrass inks and the standard profiles and the prints are stunning.

But I have tried an epson to compare :)

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3 years 10 months ago - 3 years 10 months ago #9893 by giftswp
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The 7100 and 3110 are the latest generation of the Ricoh, the sudden death syndrome has been address in this new printers, I agree they perform very well, I'm coming from using Artainium ink in an Epson 4000... I have used this ink with over 3 years of the expiration date with no shift in colors, also I had over press them in substrates like ceramics causing the image to blur but the colors were still true specially the black, in the other hand with the Ricoh you need to used up the ink before the six months expiration or else it will cause problems, also if you over cooked a transfer and has black on it the black would turned brown, this is the only negatives I know of, besides these problems, these are great printers and money makers. :)

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3 years 10 months ago #9894 by Justin86
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giftswp wrote: The 7100 and 3110 are the latest generation of the Ricoh, the death syndrome has been address in this new printers, I agree they perform very well, I'm coming from using Artainium ink in an Epson 4000... I have used this ink with over 3 years of the expiration date with no shift in colors, also I had over press them in substrates like ceramics causing the image to blur but the colors were still true specially the black, in the other hand with the Ricoh you need to used up the ink before the six months expiration or else it will cause problems, also if you over cooked a transfer and has black on it the black would turned brown, this is the only negatives I know of, besides these problems, these are great printers and money makers. :)


Im a Dye Sub Newbie :)

The very first coaster I subbed had just a black image and it turned brown, I was thinking it was because i didnt print as a rich black.

Hearing about the expiry date is pretty scary since I went and ordered high capacity carts with the printer... guess ill be selling some discounted Dye sub prints soon.

I was going to do some Jig saw puzzles for chrissy presents and ive got the cardboard jigsaw blanks here but I have no ideas on the temp, time and pressure required for cardboard. Have you had experience with these?

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3 years 10 months ago - 3 years 10 months ago #9896 by giftswp
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Lol, you over cooked the coaster, before finding what the problem was, I was pulling my hair trying to figure the problem out, I have been doing it for nearly 15 years and this was a new one in me, :P this problem happened doing some mugs with a mug heat press since Artainium inks are high energy inks that required more dwell time than with the Ricoh gel inks something I did not know. :)

Yes if you don't have much demand at the moment then perhaps you will have to do many sublimated Christmas gifts, I' m still new to the Ricoh also, I have been using it for like two months... I got the small one as an emergency since I had to do a large order of some slates and my printer died, I did 100 slates and many, many other stuff in this period of time and I barely can tell the levels of the ink when down, I probably have used like 20%, this ink really last I'm very surprise how much 29ml in each cart has last, this much ink was used perhaps in one clean up of my Epson multiplied by 7 :ohmy: , so as you can imagine... you have a lot sublimating to do. :lol:

If the material of the puzzle is like fabric or card board then 50 to 60 secs at 400 F. , the coaster if it was rubber or mdf then also it takes 1 minute.

If you have any questions let me know.

Ruben
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3 years 10 months ago #9898 by Justin86
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Hrrm seems like my family is all getting Mugs and Jig saw puzzles this year :whistle:

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3 years 10 months ago #10087 by Justin86
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I Finally got a decent size job to really test out my new printer B)

50 full colour stubbie coolers and 100 x mugs. Wonder how many times im gonna burn myself until I get good and pressing lol.

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3 years 10 months ago - 3 years 10 months ago #10090 by giftswp
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Justin86 wrote: I Finally got a decent size job to really test out my new printer B)

50 full colour stubbie coolers and 100 x mugs. Wonder how many times im gonna burn myself until I get good and pressing lol.


That's a nice order, congrats, you will have enough practice there, I hope you will be doing the mugs in an oven, other wise it will take a long time. :)

Even thought is a nice order you won't make a dent to the ink levels. :P

BTW, tomorrow I'm going to receive my new 7100, I bought it in a black Friday sale that I couldn't let pass, I paid 995.00 dll for the printer with a set of inks, a pack of 100 11x17 paper, USB cable and a box of goodies for samples (a surprise box) B)

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3 years 10 months ago #10091 by Justin86
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Unfortunately I only have a single mug press :unsure: but atleast itll be good practice.

What do you guesstimate ink usage on an A4 or A3 sheet?

That is an awesome sale price I got mine on sale and im pretty sure it was around $1750 AUD but we get overcharged for everything in Aus.

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3 years 10 months ago #10093 by giftswp
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I've found out that in an oven they're more consistent and you can do many at one time, in a press sometimes you have to give it to much time to compensate the time needed for the bottom do to it's mass.

Is hard to estimate the usage of ink since it will depend in the coverage, I've read that the Epson printers used 1 ml in a square foot, and the Ricoh's coverage are 3 to 4x more or like .50cents a square foot at like 70 to 50% coverage.

Yeah, supposedly I saved 850.00 dlls :P

Ruben
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3 years 10 months ago #10096 by Justin86
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I only planned on doing short run mugs but hey definitely no complaints with a order for 100 :)

I've seen the clamps for doing multiple mugs in an oven but do you need a special type oven?

I do like the Ricoh for simplicity but the Ink carts are pretty expensive. what didn't you like about your Epson? I happen to have an Epson R2880 here that I was going to convert to a UV led flatbed printer but it would work great as a Sub printer as well.

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3 years 10 months ago #10097 by giftswp
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No, not really special oven need it, you can do them in your kitchen oven or in a convention oven, I use this one... Hamilton Beach 31197, i like it because is tall and I can fit German stein beer mugs etc., in this oven you can fit up 6 mugs pushing it, but I do 4 at a time 16 min for 11oz and 17 min for 15oz mugs, is best to give them some space between the mugs like 2 to 3 inches so the air circulates for better performed, also the mugs bottom up with the opening down so it keeps hot air trapped, also I use "The Ove' Glove" to handle the mugs, tiles etc. these are great.

What I don't like about my Epson is that it die :P it was a work horse it is an Epson 4000, I used for about 8 years is not worth fixing, also it was 7 colors so it was not nice having to maintain 7 colors, and like I said before this printers required head cleaning more often and it was 7 colors wasting ink, also expensive, the Ricoh seems expensive but really they are not that much considering the mileage they give you since they last 3 or 4 times more than a comparable with Epson, I was skeptical my self, a reason I went with the small 3110, but in the very first job I made 2000.00dlls plus what I have done after that and still there is plenty of ink to made another 2000.00 dlls or more, so is a no brainer, also I have not print a nozzle check nor do a single head cleaning my self, it has been maintenance free basically, so up to this point I really like them, not to mentioned the accuracy in the color, specially the black and whites (grays) the best rendition in all my sublimation history, hopefully I'll keep talking like this always... I don't want a different experience. ;)

About the R2880, is a great printer but I think the Ricoh is more solid and consistent, then again... if you don't let the inks expire... some supplier even suggest to keep a log of the use by... dates of every cartridge, the dates are in the cartridge and in the corresponding box as well.

Ruben
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2 months 1 week ago #21396 by PrintTshirt1
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You can check for Ricoh Sg 3110 Gel Sublimation Laser Printer.

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